NASCAR 21 Ignition - Can it deliver?

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Blitzman

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One thing... Or maybe a few LOL With the good old games like Nr2003(and the rest of Papyrus line), as well as stuff like Motor City Online - They wrote the Meat of the program and maybe had sub-modules that were made by someone for a few things like certain sound file handling (,snd files and such), and some Animation and or video clip handling like BiNK (.bnk files and such) some net routines maybe. But the main part of the program was their own code.
NOW most programs use some Game Engine... Unreal, Unity, Madness, and RFactor's base physics and so on. They are working from inside boxes that need to be stacked together mostly now, rather than creating the main box and maybe putting a few other pre-made items(modules and/or routines) in it along with all else THEY created..programming and all.

That is a lot of what has happened I believe.
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Looking at the state of NASCAR 21 Ignition, I might just buy Heat 5 now that it's on discount for my "casual play around" game. Atleast it is a mostly stable and finished product and has the ability for texture/skin mods, the ability to rename drivers and adjust thier performance so I can update the rosters. Also more features (3 series, season mode, custom schedules, stages, custom setups) and a lot less bugs.

No Nashville SS will be a little bit of a bummer but one track won't make or break anything, and most of the new road courses I can take or leave, along with Bristol Dirt.
 
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Looking at the state of NASCAR 21 Ignition, I might just buy Heat 5 now that it's on discount for my "casual play around" game. Atleast it is a mostly stable and finished product and has the ability for texture/skin mods, the ability to rename drivers and adjust thier performance so I can update the rosters. Also more features (3 series, season mode, custom schedules, stages, custom setups) and a lot less bugs.

No Nashville SS will be a little bit of a bummer but one track won't make or break anything, and most of the new road courses I can take or leave, along with Bristol Dirt.
I have it here and it's fun to play, considering that it's similar in physics to the 2000 Nascar Heat. But the graphics are good and there are some good options to vary your play. As I recall, there is no roster editor on Xbox.
 
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The pre-release dole-outs to streamers are probably not working in their favor, the reviews have been a wall of bad news...

So what we have here is a shiny new package (better physics (rF2 physics) and less in the box (only the Cup)

I suppose they know their targets, controller driving, console users...nothing wrong with that, let's just not pretend is some sort of Sim.
 

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I've watched this game closely since it was announced.... and I started hyped, by god I wanted a good NASCAR game that I could maybe mod, or at least have some fun with; and as they continued to only give screenshots and then only recently "gameplay", I cooled on it considerably. Even before the hot mess that was the streamer reveals, I could tell there was something seriously wrong.

I've bought every. single. NASCAR game since NASCAR Racing on PC (and the console games). I'm done "supporting" companies (even though it's technically the same one as the last 5+ years) in hopes their later editions live up to to expectations. I'll try it out, but I am *NOT* shelling out AAA title price on this.

People want to argue that it's unfair to compare previous games to this; no, no it is not. Just as with any consumable/good, comparisons to previous iterations are what makes most companies want to create something BETTER. Imagine buying a Chevy that has all the tech bells and whistles, but the next time you go to buy one, it has 5 mpg better fuel mileage.... but all your toys are removed. Would you buy it? I wouldn't. Value isn't there to me.

So yeah, the real nail in the coffin was the lack of content and what I consider 'basic features' (a mirror..... seriously?) which I won't sit here and regurgitate as it's well documented just about everywhere. $60 for a game should contain *far* more than what they are rolling out with, and I really didn't get a warm fuzzy feeling after watching various streamers struggle just to play (and honestly, just delete the spotter, I could pretend it was IROC or SRX at that point).

Only real thing I want to see is the various "official" game review companies like IGN, etc, and how they score it. Anything above a 4 and they're shilling.

That's my rant, back to Heat 5, SRX, and NR2003 I go. Thank god for old reliable lol
 

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Ok sorry for the double post but I think it ties into Ignition well enough...

It's time for the '1 game every year' model to go away. A smarter move would have been, since the graphics and physics engine is unlikely to change anytime soon, to release the base game, support it for 2-4 years with roster updates, DLCs, and other content. Focus on the one, improve it, add in series/tracks as DLCs if you must. I'd pay good money if I knew it would be lasting more than 12 months.

The fact that no NASCAR game maker has considered this tells me it's about the money, not the passion for NASCAR or the game as they claim.
 
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Ok sorry for the double post but I think it ties into Ignition well enough...

It's time for the '1 game every year' model to go away. A smarter move would have been, since the graphics and physics engine is unlikely to change anytime soon, to release the base game, support it for 2-4 years with roster updates, DLCs, and other content. Focus on the one, improve it, add in series/tracks as DLCs if you must. I'd pay good money if I knew it would be lasting more than 12 months.

The fact that no NASCAR game maker has considered this tells me it's about the money, not the passion for NASCAR or the game as they claim.
That has been exactly my thoughts... NR2003 was just getting to the point of programming where things could be improved on in many ways without making a totally new game it seemed. To bad Papyrus and Sierra went away. Papyrus was a great Developer and Sierra cared about the people.

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